With apologies to William Shakespeare for adapting a line from Hamlet to current day questions of great importance, I thought that I would address one of the most common questions I get about COVID. That question comes from those who know or believe that they previously had COVID as to whether they should get vaccinated. My answer is “definitely,” but I seldom have the opportunity to provide a detailed explanation as to why they should get vaccinated. So here goes.
First, a short primer on the immune response to infection with the SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19 is in order. [Note: the following is greatly oversimplified, but intended for lay persons so that they can have a basic understanding of the science behind our recommendation that those previously infected with COVID still get vaccinated.]
There are essentially three arms of the immune system – the innate system (I have written previously about this, but for brevity and simplicity, I am not going to discuss this in detail for purposes of this blog post), the humoral system (this is where antibodies come into play) and the cellular system (this includes a range of specialized cells, but for our purposes, we will focus on so-called T-cells).
Various proteins on the surface of a virus can be recognized by the body as being “foreign” and therefore, something to be attacked when the virus enters our body through the nose, throat, lungs, gastrointestinal tract or other sites of entry. By now, most people are aware that for the SARS-CoV-2 virus, the spike protein is one of the most important proteins for the virus’ infectivity, but also for a target by our immune system and vaccines.
When exposed to SARS-CoV-2 and an infection results, our bodies will, in most cases (exceptions include persons who are immunocompromised), produce antibodies that will bind to various sites on the virus in an attempt to mark the virus for attack and destruction and to prevent the virus from being able to invade cells, such as the cells that line our lungs and blood vessels. To enter a cell, the virus needs to attach to a specific receptor on the lining of the cell, much the way that we need a specific key to open a looked door to allow us to enter a room. Not all, in fact, not even most, antibodies are effective in preventing the virus from attaching to the receptor on the cell because they have been developed in response to other proteins on the virus that are not involved in that binding. We have a special name for those antibodies that do bind to the specific site on the virus that then blocks the ability of the virus to attach to the receptor on the cell and gain entry into the cell – they are called neutralizing antibodies.
If you have not previously had COVID and you have not been vaccinated, then once you are exposed and infected by the SARS-CoV-2 virus, your innate immune system will try to hold the virus off for days (as much as 7 – 10) while your body produces antibodies to the virus. This is why vaccinated persons are so much better protected against the virus, because the vaccine causes us to already have these antibodies made and ready or able to produce them much faster than if we have never been vaccinated or exposed to the virus before. Thus, if vaccinated, we have much better chances of preventing these invading virus particles from entering our cells and causing damage, illness and more production of viruses and then more spread throughout our bodies. Most of those who have been previously infected will also have these antibodies ready to go, but I will discuss below why those who have been previously infected will still be better protected by also getting vaccinated.
Unfortunately, once the virus gets inside cells, antibodies no longer work against those virus particles and the virus takes control of the cell’s internal machinery to force it to produce more virus particles. [This is more than you want to know, but one of the reasons that the delta variant seems to be able to evade the immune system to an extent is that when the cell is forced to make more viruses, the viruses are then generally exported out of the cell to then spread to other cells, tissues and organs of the body, but when released outside of the cell, they are now vulnerable to these neutralizing antibodies. However, the delta variant can use another method by which newly produced virus particles spread directly from one cell to another contiguous cell, depriving antibodies of an opportunity to attack the brand-new virus.]
Once virus has entered cells, we have to rely on a different part of the immune system called the cellular immune system. These are specialized white blood cells. Some of these cells have the ability to identify cells that have been infected and kill the cells, which will stop the cell from producing more virus and often times kill the virus that is inside the cell. These cells are generally called T-cells, and more specifically, cytotoxic T-cells or CD8+ cells.
I think this is enough of a primer for us now to understand the science behind our recommendation that people who have previously had COVID still get vaccinated.
So, let’s look at 3 recent studies. The most recent one is “Antibody response to SARS-CoV-2 infection and BNT162b2 vaccine in Israel,” by Shapira et al posted July 8, 2021 as a preprint article, meaning that this has not yet been peer-reviewed and published in a medical journal. In this study, the authors examined 26,170 blood samples from persons in Israel between November of last year and March of this year. 8,078 of the samples were from persons who had positive tests for COVID, but were asymptomatic before the COVID vaccinations were available. 1,652 of the samples were from people recovering from symptomatic COVID infection. 3,516 samples were taken from people who were vaccinated with the Pfizer mRNA vaccine.
What the authors found was that vaccinated persons had the highest neutralizing antibody levels – nearly three times higher levels than those for persons recovering from COVID. 99.4 percent of the vaccinated individuals had detectable neutralizing antibodies six days or more following the second dose of the Pfizer vaccine, while only 75.7 percent of those recovering from COVID had detectable neutralizing antibody.
The next study is from last month, entitled, “Prior SARS-CoV-2 infection rescues B and T cell responses to variants after first vaccine dose,” by Reynolds, et al, published in the journal Science. This study looked at vaccination (Pfizer) responses to a single dose of the two-dose regimen in health care workers in the UK in those who had not previously been infected and in those who had been infected with the original strain of the SARS-CoV-2 virus. They showed that 96 percent of those health care workers who had been previously infected developed a T-cell response to the spike protein as well as a neutralizing antibody response that was sufficient to provide protection against the alpha and beta variants. Only 70 percent of those health care workers who had not previously been infected developed a T-cell specific response. The T-cell response in those previously infected was 4-fold greater than that of those who had not been previously infected. We refer to the first dose of the mRNA vaccine as the prime and the second dose as the boost. It appears that for those previously infected with COVID, that infection serves as the equivalent of a prime and the first of the two-shot vaccine functions essentially as the boost.
The third study is from March and was also published in Science: “mRNA vaccination boosts cross-variant neutralizing antibodies elicited by SARS-CoV-2 infection,” by Stamatatos et al. The authors in that study found that persons who recovered from COVID had antibodies that routinely could neutralize the original form of the virus. However, the antibodies inconsistently neutralized the beta variant. However, a single dose of mRNA vaccine boosted neutralizing antibody titers against both original strain and the beta variant by up to a 1000-fold.
Therefore, we can conclude that persons who have recovered from COVID certainly do have some degree of immunity, but it is not as robust as the immunity derived from vaccination However, those who have recovered from COVID who then are subsequently vaccinated have even stronger immune responses compared to those who are vaccinated but did not have prior COVID infection.
Those who had COVID last year and are not vaccinated, likely do not have predictable immunity to all of the new variants, especially the delta variant that is now the predominant variant in the US. However, those who had prior COVID and have received the mRNA vaccine should have a high of protection against these variants.
So, if you have had COVID, so long as you have recovered from the initial illness, including those who have PASC (long-COVID), please get vaccinated ASAP if you have not already done so.
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Sending to my son, Darren. Needs your blog, especially this one
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Outstanding post however , I was wanting to know if you could write a litte more on this subject? I’d be very thankful if you could elaborate a little bit further. Appreciate it!
Thank you and I am sure I will have more on these subjects soon. Thanks for following the blog!
So mother-in-law just saw her local primary care doctor yesterday after getting out of the hospital and he was the 3rd doctor and 2nd nurse to tell her to wait the 90 days after her COVID infection or suffer this “adverse reaction”. This doctor ACTUALLY told her she DID NOT have to wear a mask now because she had had the virus and was covered by the antibodies.
She wants me to ask you if there is an increased risk for her to wait the 90 days to get the shot. She’s scared to get it now because of these other providers. I tried to tell her that I thought there was an increased risk with Delta but I wanted your expert opinion. Thank you for your time – it’s much appreciated and valued.
I live near Houston and I am a patient of the “other” amazing Dr Pate! She had forwarded this blog to me to forward to those that have been less than eager to get the vaccine.
Between the both of you, you have kept my immediate family safe from Covid so far. Unfortunately, my mother-in-law was one of the many people who did not want to get vaccinated and came down with Covid in July. She was hospitalized recently and just got released after a month long battle. She was treated with remdesivir.
The doctor has instructed her to get her Covid shot in 90 days or there would be an “adverse reaction” and now she’s terrified of the shot again.
I’m worried about how to get a 77 year old patient who believes she is now “immune” to the virus because she’s had it to get a vaccine that could cause an “adverse reaction” if it’s taken early. How should I word this properly to her, if you don’t mind me asking? Thank you for you time
I think she either misunderstood the doctor or the doctor didn’t give the current advice.
We used to tell COVID patients that they should wait 90 days following COVID to get their vaccine. That was because it was widely believed that patients who recovered from COVID could count on immune protection against reinfection for 90 days, plus the fact that we, at that time, did not have enough vaccine for everyone who wanted it.
We are in a very different place now in that we have plenty of vaccine. The current recommendation is that someone who has recovered from COVID (we’re talking about no longer having fevers and a self-assessment that the majority of their symptoms have improved or resolved), should go ahead and get vaccinated. There are no “adverse effects” just by virtue of the fact that the person previously had COVID or the timing of the administration of the vaccine following COVID. There certainly have been reports that persons who previously have had COVID do have more intense side effects with the first dose of the mRNA vaccine than persons who have not previously had COVID. Nevertheless, that should not cause her to be worried or delay vaccination, What we would expect is perhaps a day or two of feeling achy, perhaps fever, headache and fatigue. However, compared to what she went through with COVID and her hospitalization, I suspect she would think this would be a walk in the park.
Encourage her to go ahead and get vaccinated and not worry. If she gets these symptoms, she can take tylenol unless her doctor has previously instructed her not to for other medical reasons.
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Thank you Dr Pate for your quick response. I just to make sure that you did see that my mother-in-law had received the remdesivir treatment while in the hospital. Would that change any time line that you gave me? Thank you again
We do recommend waiting after receiving monoclonal antibodies or convalescent plasma, but not remdesivir.
Hello Dr Pate,
I’m not sure if you received my post yesterday because I don’t see it here so I wanted to send it again. I hope I’m not a bother.
I had a chance to discuss your advice with my mother-in-law; however, she had gone to her primary care provider in Goliad, TX in the meantime. The provider agreed with the two other doctors and two other nurses in San Antonio that instructed her to wait 90 days or suffer an “adverse reaction”. This provider went as far as to tell her she didn’t have to wear a mask around family members since she had had COVID.
I felt compelled to write to you again because I knew that you spoke to more providers out there. This has to be stopped or corrected some how. This is not correct that 5 providers are all giving the wrong information and saying words that scare an already very cautious, older person that hadn’t wanted the vaccine in 18 months. They need to be up to date on the protocols with Delta and be more careful with word choices. It really does effect their patients’ decisions about the vaccine.
So, now she’s got me telling her she should be vaccinated now and all the reasons why and she says ok BUT she wants to know if their is a negative reason not to wait the 90 days? She’d prefer to wait. Will the antibodies built from having COVID cover her for the 90 days is the question she has asked?
Thank you in advance for you’re assistance with helping me figure out how to help someone that is so important in my life.